slightly OT hardware question

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William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I
would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite,
kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired
somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last
I looked). Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a
good one.

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Valeri Galtsev

2016-05-25 16:27:35 UTC

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I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption computer
lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I ruled out for
myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet adapter on it will be
USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent firewall/router with decent
throughput. I took a quick look at Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice
not that I've heard bout it from you), and I have the same reservations
about it.

What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to bay RAM
and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I definitely will
get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of $300 as opposed to $40
for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but with fitlet-i I will have two
gige ports, and enough CPU power to have it handling decent traffic.
(Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least
by Israeli company; 5 years warranty, available on amazon, power
consumption up to 10 W).

Just my $0.02

Valeri

PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is better
option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

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Arthur Chance

2016-05-25 16:40:42 UTC

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I'm not sure how cheap you want, but in the past I've used boards from
PC Engines as firewalls.

http://www.pcengines.ch/

My current firewall was built from a (now discontinued) Jetway mini ITX
board with one ethernet if plus an added 4 ethernet if daughterboard.
Some of the current Jetway boards might be worth looking at if they're
not beyond your price limit. They tend to use Intel chips rather than
Realtek, so perform better.

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Dean E. Weimer

2016-05-25 16:35:12 UTC

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Post by William A. Mahaffey III
Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or
more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible
? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found
Utilite, kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently
wired somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work
there last I looked). Anyone got a little beastie like this working ?
TIA & have a good one.
--
William A. Mahaffey III
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war
ever devised by man."
-- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
_______________________________________________

I am using a Jetway Intel Celeron N2930 to run OPNSense (2.5 months
running so far so not a real long test) so it should run regular FreeBSD
however its going to run around $300 by the time you add memory and disk
of some sort, using an 30G mSATA with my install. This was a replacement
to a PCEngines APU1D4 which had problems with the crappy real tech
interfaces and has been a solid replacement with much better performing
2 x Intel 1G NICs so far.

http://www.amazon.com/Jetway-Intel-Celeron-N2930-Fanless/dp/B00OY8Q0QC?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

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William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Arthur Chance

I'm not sure how cheap you want, but in the past I've used boards from
PC Engines as firewalls.
http://www.pcengines.ch/
My current firewall was built from a (now discontinued) Jetway mini ITX
board with one ethernet if plus an added 4 ethernet if daughterboard.
Some of the current Jetway boards might be worth looking at if they're
not beyond your price limit. They tend to use Intel chips rather than
Realtek, so perform better.

I was/am thinking along those lines, mini-ITX AMD SoC & small case, good
solution, but I kept getting up to the same $300.00 that a couple of
others mentioned, & started casting around for a hopefully
cheaper-but-still-functional RPi-ish solution. Thanks :-).

William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Valeri Galtsev

I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption computer
lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I ruled out for
myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet adapter on it will be
USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent firewall/router with decent
throughput. I took a quick look at Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice
not that I've heard bout it from you), and I have the same reservations
about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to bay RAM
and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I definitely will
get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of $300 as opposed to $40
for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but with fitlet-i I will have two
gige ports, and enough CPU power to have it handling decent traffic.
(Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least
by Israeli company; 5 years warranty, available on amazon, power
consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is better
option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

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University of Chicago
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I agree w/ your points about the RPi networking, that's what put(s) me
off as well. I'll look at the fitlet-i, thanks :-).

William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Valeri Galtsev

I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption computer
lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I ruled out for
myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet adapter on it will be
USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent firewall/router with decent
throughput. I took a quick look at Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice
not that I've heard bout it from you), and I have the same reservations
about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to bay RAM
and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I definitely will
get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of $300 as opposed to $40
for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but with fitlet-i I will have two
gige ports, and enough CPU power to have it handling decent traffic.
(Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least
by Israeli company; 5 years warranty, available on amazon, power
consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is better
option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

OK, I'm on their site now, looks sweet. They only mention linux, FreeBSD
and/or NetBSD compatible ?

Phil Eaton

2016-05-25 20:10:05 UTC

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Says it's supported but no graphics.
http://www.fit-pc.com/wiki/index.php/FAQ:fitlet#Does_FreeBSD_run_on_fitlet.3F

Post by William A. Mahaffey III

Post by Valeri Galtsev

Post by William A. Mahaffey III
Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more
working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I
would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite,
kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired
somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last
I looked). Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a
good one.
I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption computer

lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I ruled out for
myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet adapter on it will be
USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent firewall/router with decent
throughput. I took a quick look at Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice
not that I've heard bout it from you), and I have the same reservations
about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to bay RAM
and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I definitely will
get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of $300 as opposed to $40
for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but with fitlet-i I will have two
gige ports, and enough CPU power to have it handling decent traffic.
(Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least
by Israeli company; 5 years warranty, available on amazon, power
consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is better
option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.
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Post by William A. Mahaffey III
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OK, I'm on their site now, looks sweet. They only mention linux, FreeBSD
and/or NetBSD compatible ?
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ever devised by man."
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William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Phil Eaton
Says it's supported but no graphics.
http://www.fit-pc.com/wiki/index.php/FAQ:fitlet#Does_FreeBSD_run_on_fitlet.3F
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:53 PM, William A. Mahaffey III

*SNIP* !!!!

Post by Phil Eaton
OK, I'm on their site now, looks sweet. They only mention linux,
FreeBSD and/or NetBSD compatible ?
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Excellent, thanks :-) !!!!

Valeri Galtsev

2016-05-25 20:51:42 UTC

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Post by William A. Mahaffey III

Post by Valeri Galtsev

I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption
computer
lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I ruled out for
myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet adapter on it will
be
USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent firewall/router with decent
throughput. I took a quick look at Banana PI (just to reconsider my
choice
not that I've heard bout it from you), and I have the same reservations
about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to bay RAM
and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I definitely
will
get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of $300 as opposed to $40
for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but with fitlet-i I will have
two
gige ports, and enough CPU power to have it handling decent traffic.
(Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at
least
by Israeli company; 5 years warranty, available on amazon, power
consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is better
option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

Aha, I see from your another reply you are looking at their website
already (fit-pc.com). It is advantageous to get their heatsink ($15) if
you get fitlet-i. I decided against their more expensive creatures for my
goal. fitlet-i having two gige ports seems to be optimal IMHO (unless you
decide to have multitude vlans, then you may go up to more network ports
incarnation).

Valeri

Post by William A. Mahaffey III

Post by Valeri Galtsev

I agree w/ your points about the RPi networking, that's what put(s) me
off as well. I'll look at the fitlet-i, thanks :-).
--
William A. Mahaffey III
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ever devised by man."
-- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
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Eric S Pulley

2016-06-01 14:52:43 UTC

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On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75

Post by Valeri Galtsev

I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption
computer lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I
ruled out for myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet
adapter on it will be USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent
firewall/router with decent throughput. I took a quick look at
Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice not that I've heard bout it
from you), and I have the same reservations about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to
bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I
definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of
$300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but
with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to
have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up
to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5
years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is
better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

Post by William A. Mahaffey III
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William A. Mahaffey III

If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris
Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years...

William A. Mahaffey III

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

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Post by Eric S Pulley
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75

Post by Valeri Galtsev

I was looking lately for smallish cheepish low power consumption
computer lately to have it as firewall/router (running pfsense). I
ruled out for myself raspberryPI, for two reasons: second ethernet
adapter on it will be USB, the CPU is too weak to run decent
firewall/router with decent throughput. I took a quick look at
Banana PI (just to reconsider my choice not that I've heard bout it
from you), and I have the same reservations about it.
What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to
bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I
definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of
$300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but
with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to
have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up
to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5
years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is
better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

Post by William A. Mahaffey III
--
William A. Mahaffey III

If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris
Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years...
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Found them earlier, looked like more $$$$ than I wanted to commit, but
also looked like top-shelf equipment, already had/has FreeBSD 9.nR
compatibility. I might be back ....

Shane Ambler

2016-06-02 02:50:31 UTC

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Post by Eric S Pulley
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:00:48 -0453.75

Post by Valeri Galtsev

What I decided to go with is fitlet-i barebone (you will need to
bay RAM and mSATA drive for it, otionally their heatsink, which I
definitely will get for myself). This brings me in a ballpark of
$300 as opposed to $40 for raspberry PI or banana PI barebone, but
with fitlet-i I will have two gige ports, and enough CPU power to
have it handling decent traffic. (Additional info: AMD SoC CPU, up
to 8 GB RAM, made in Israel, or at least by Israeli company; 5
years warranty, available on amazon, power consumption up to 10 W).
Just my $0.02
Valeri
PS I really would like to hear what others think, and if there is
better option than fitlet-i for gige WAN and LAN.

Post by William A. Mahaffey III
--
William A. Mahaffey III

If you are getting into $280+ USD range you may aswell look at Soekris
Engineering. Makers of fine BSD small SBC/routers for many years...

Getting a little higher in price, have a look at http://netgate.com

Their 2GB ram 2xGbE ports for $299 + 89 or 149 for wifi options.

http://store.netgate.com/ADI/RCC-DFF-2220.aspx

bsdnow mentioned a blog post about some testing to increase the size of
state tables that was done on their 6 port box with 8GB ram

http://blog.cochard.me/2016/05/playing-with-freebsd-packet-filter.html

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